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Dusty Turtle
@dusty
06/12/17 07:40:40PM
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Can any one tell me what these are called?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions


Dulcinina, the board has to be super thin, so that it bounces easily. I am sure the ceiling fan blade is way too thick.

I have two limberjacks that came with boards. Both are rectangular pieces of plywood about two feet in length, 3 or 3-1/2 inches wide, and only about 1/8 of an inch thick.  


updated by @dusty: 06/12/17 08:01:48PM
Ken Bloom
@ken-bloom
06/12/17 07:37:56PM
6 posts

Almeda Riddle


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

 I had the great pleasure of  spending a little time with Almeda Riddle during a period betweeen 1964 and 1974. She was so sharp and had a great wit. I loved her singing and her memory was nothing short of phenominal. I still miss her.

dulcinina
@dulcinina
06/12/17 07:36:20PM
88 posts

Can any one tell me what these are called?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I was thinking about limberjacks just a few days ago.  In the back of my mind I of sort of remembered having one.  Went down into the basement and sure enough there he was in a box.  The "board" I have for him is the blade of a ceiling fan. I don't think it works particularly well.  Any suggestions for a suitable board? Dulcinina

abritabroad
@abritabroad
06/12/17 05:56:36PM
8 posts

Fixed Bridge and Intonation


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thanks Marg for the encouragement to "go where no man has gone before" with the  heat gun and a light tap or 6!  the support and friendship here is wonderful  the best > abritabroad

Skip
@skip
06/12/17 10:28:58AM
389 posts

Mobilesheets users -question on importing .pdf files with multiple songs


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Set up 2 folders on a PC, 'PDF'S for tablet' and 'PDF'S on tablet'.

Download MobileSheets Companion and the manual  

http://www.zubersoft.com/mobilesheets/companion.html

Connect to WIFI on both units.

Click on the 3 vertical dots [overflow icon] at the upper right on 1st page that appears [main library of MSP] the tablet then select 'Sync to PC'. 

A popup will appear on the PC allowing you to select the tablet, selet it an click ok at the bottom right.

.on the PC, click on the upper left icon and click on 'batch import' [I think it is] and find the 'PDF'S for tablet' folder, select it and go. I may have left out some steps, going strictly from memory right now [not so good for us old timers :)].


updated by @skip: 06/12/17 10:31:04AM
David Pedersen
@david-pedersen
06/12/17 10:26:48AM
32 posts

Mobilesheets users -question on importing .pdf files with multiple songs


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Email Mike @ Mobilesheetspro, he gets back promptly and will answer all your questions.  Great program

Joseph Besse
@joseph-besse
06/12/17 09:52:57AM
52 posts

Mobilesheets users -question on importing .pdf files with multiple songs


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I use the iPad Pro tablet now with unrealBook as the app.  I formerly used an android tablet with MobileSheets to load my PDF songs, but I forgot exactly how to use it. One of my dulcimer friends bought an android tablet and wants to use the MobileSheets program and I forgot all the details of loading songs onto the tablet. Can somebody refresh my memory so I can help out my friend. Thanks a lot.

Joe Besse

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
06/12/17 06:48:28AM
2,157 posts



There is a master list of the known Homer Ledford dulcimers which lists the instrument number, date it was built, materials, and first owner.  Sorry, I don't have the link to that, but someone here does, I'm sure.

When you take pix, be sure to get his signature as well as top/bottom and side, and a close up of the tuning head.

JenniferC
@jenniferc
06/12/17 12:49:31AM
36 posts

Tune You've Had The Most Fun Playing?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I derive immense pleasure from learning a new tune, whether from ear or from tab, that process brings me great joy, especially if it challenges me to reach further than I have before. Right now, I'm working on King of the Fairies and Fisher's Hornpipe, and I'm having a blast with those!
marg
@marg
06/11/17 11:59:36PM
620 posts

Fixed Bridge and Intonation


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Learning the dulcimer is an adventure & exciting. Part of the adventure is learning about the dulcimer; how to change strings, take the bridge out & sand it down a bit to lower the action, file a buzzing fret or put a temp 6+ in with a pin or paperclip & tape. Lots of help on this site to take you through the steps weather it's a strumming problem or heating up & tapping a bridge. Good luck, a little adjusting maybe is all that's needed but no matter what - great infomation

Jan Potts
@jan-potts
06/11/17 11:32:29PM
403 posts



Fair value of an instrument like this is very difficult to determine...sorry!  Condition is always a consideration--but that doesn't mean the dulcimer needs to be in pristine condition! Some people like the little nicks and gouges because it makes them look loved and "gives them character".  There are other features that are desired by some buyers that are not desired by others...wooden tuners or geared tuners?  added frets or no added frets?  Artistically, some prefer absolutely plain, letting the pure beauty of the wood draw the attention.  Others are looking for an instrument with hand carvings and beautiful inlays.  Then, of course, there's the matter of intonation--and how it was intended to be played: noter/drone or chording and fingerpicking?  How many dulcimers were built by a particular luthier--are they easy or difficult to obtain? Is it a style, design, etc., that's in demand?  These are just some of the considerations that go into determining the value of an instrument. 

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
06/11/17 11:11:27PM
1,850 posts



Mascis, you got a deal!  Homer Ledford dulcimers are collector items.  That was the case even before he passed away.  Check out this discussion from a few years back on Everything Dulcimer .

Depending on the condition of the dulcimer, I would think a reasonable price would be $500 to $800.  But that's just a guess; others might know better.  It's possible it's worth more than that.

abritabroad
@abritabroad
06/11/17 10:39:20PM
8 posts

Fixed Bridge and Intonation


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Oh thankyou. Still learning here. I think it is the "DLO" that I have. I was assuming that a fixed bridge equaled dodgy intonation. I will check out your dulcimers too; of course I did not know that you were a builder as well. Why would you build an instrument that had a tuning system that did not work?! After I have taken my DLO to pieces and messed with it I will be in a better position to buy a better one! thanks again for the reply...

marg
@marg
06/11/17 10:03:04PM
620 posts

Jack Whitworth of Capote Hills


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(Jack Whitworth of Capote Hills, Leesville Texas )

Does anyone know about Jack Whitworth dulcimers or if he is still around? 

robert schuler
@robert-schuler
06/11/17 05:48:15PM
258 posts

Fixed Bridge and Intonation


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Richard. I build my dulcimers with not movable but interchangeable bridges. One for 155 and 158 tuning.
Bad intonation can drive you crazy. New players may not have the "ear" for tuning and so its doesn't bother them. Robert.
abritabroad
@abritabroad
06/11/17 05:44:17PM
8 posts

Fixed Bridge and Intonation


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Yes Robert, I totally get it. In fact the appeal of this instrument to me is the variety and interest it arouses. I was born in London way back!! but have an avid interest in music going all the way back to the Egyptians!!  the great thing about music is that it truly is an international language regardless of skill level.  I had a friend who was a brilliant pianist who coined this phrase which I never forgot.  "Hey mate, wouldn't it be great if we played the triangle; then we could put everything in ONE NOTE"  food for thought.  thanks again for the thoughts. 

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
06/11/17 04:59:12PM
2,157 posts

Fixed Bridge and Intonation


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MOST dulcimers, I would say, have a moveable bridge -- at least somewhat moveable and somewhat loose enough to move (although many builder put a drop of glue to hold thing during the initial string up).  Remember, too, that this is a folk instrument in transition, not a concert instrument with 500 years of development.  Also understand that there are a couple of "offshore" makers of dulcimers who haven't any real understanding of fret-spacing, intonation, etc.  and who seem to be building from unscaled photographs.  Like Robert, below, I think you unfortunately ran into a DSO.  

When that "Apple" company started, a number of years ago, they were horrendous  - 7 out of 10 instruments were mostly unplayable.  The instruments were dirt cheap, looked decent (unless you had a good eye) and sold like hotcakes.  They've gotten somewhat better (or at least a couple of employees have) over the years, but obviously not 100%.

 

abritabroad
@abritabroad
06/11/17 04:41:11PM
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Fixed Bridge and Intonation


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Hi Robert.. lol I agree. I spend as much on a set of violin Strings as I paid for that dulcimer BUT the learning experience is awesome. My expectations for that instrument have already been met so now I am going to heat up the bridge with a heat gun and try and get the bridge out.  the intonation is passable fret wise but I HAVE to move the bridge. I had no preconceived expectations for that instrument but I knew I was in trouble when I noticed that the strings had been screwed into the block!!  I am learning and experimenting and will not lose any sleep if I loosing all the glue joints and I end up with some nice kindling! I still do not understand why more dulcimers do not have a movable bridge...  btw  thanks to everyone for chatting..made my day..  Richard aka abritabroad

robert schuler
@robert-schuler
06/11/17 12:55:14PM
258 posts

Fixed Bridge and Intonation


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Apple creek dulcimers are DSO's. (Dulcimer shaped objects). You best remove the original bridge then reposition it until you get intonation, assuming the frets are accurate to start with. Fixed bridges are often pre set to work in one tuning with one type of string set.. Robert.
Sean Ruprecht-Belt
@sean-belt
06/11/17 12:41:57PM
31 posts

Tune You've Had The Most Fun Playing?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

LOL. Rob, I'm not over thinking this. I just mean fun. Sometimes the fun comes from working out a complex tune and the good feel in in the fingers that induces. Sometimes it's just a tune that makes me smile or laugh any time I play it. Fun for you can mean anything you want it to.

As I always told my daughter when she was a kid, "It's all fun until somebody loses a finger. Just ask Jerry Garcia."

Strumelia
@strumelia
06/11/17 12:08:03PM
2,406 posts

Where you playing next?


Single-Instructor workshops, band & house concerts, Club activities, monthly Jams

Hi all, this fun ongoing thread will be better located in our GigTalk! group, so I've transferred it to the following location, where everyone can continue participating in it:

https://fotmd.com/strumelia/group_discuss/2080/where-you-playing-next

Thanks!  yes

Gail Webber
@gail-webber
06/11/17 11:04:29AM
70 posts

Where you playing next?


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I played at the Mt. Airy Fiddler's Convention last weekend.  I played my arrangement of Wayfaring Stranger and was very surprised to win 1st place!  I'm still in shock that I placed at all with so many good players.  I'm planning to play at the Old Fiddler's Convention in Galax, Va. in August.  I'm working on Clinch Mountain Backstep and may play that, or may work something out on my Galax dulcimer - haven't really decided.  This time of year is so much fun with a lot of local festivals!

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
06/11/17 07:16:27AM
1,555 posts

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Rob, it would have been nice to see you!  Adam Schlenker is a lights-out flatpicker.  This photo was put online by the venue.  After Adam's set, we all played Black Mountain Rag to close-out the evening.  By the look of things, Mark is taking his break here. :)

image.jpeg

abritabroad
@abritabroad
06/10/17 09:24:37PM
8 posts

Fixed Bridge and Intonation


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Yes those Viols and their frets! I love all stringed instruments and try and play my violin and / or viola an hour a day after work. At my vintage of 68 I have become familiar with the alto clef, which was a challenge. What I am loving about the Dulcimer is, well, two things really. One..it is an instrument that you can tinker with without doing any lasting damage it seems LOL plus, it forces you to get to grips with modes.... and btw..I have a wooden alto Recorder but I could NEVER get it to not block up with the er....spit or mouth moisture. Not a cheap one and sadly not played too much. thanks for chatting!!

Kusani
@kusani
06/10/17 07:33:26PM
134 posts

Tune You've Had The Most Fun Playing?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

"No Body Knows the Trouble I've Seen", but I have retitled it to: "No Body Knows the Trouble I'm In". dulcimer

Rob N Lackey
@rob-n-lackey
06/10/17 07:02:01PM
420 posts

Tune You've Had The Most Fun Playing?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Boy, that's a loaded question and it can depend on when you mean.  When (I think it was) John Keane set up the "Cluck Ole Hen" variants I had a blast working it out as a waltz kind of in the style of Carruli or Carcassi and playing it in other ways.  But for long time instrumental fun on the dulcimer it would have to be "Soldier's Joy."  Vocal fun, maybe "Me and Bobbie McGee" or (here's one for morbidity when talking fun) "Desperadoes Waiting for a Train."

 

hugssandi
@hugssandi
06/10/17 06:35:20PM
249 posts

Tune You've Had The Most Fun Playing?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Right now I love playing "Silver Dagger" with my girls singin' with me.  That's kinda morbid, huh?  LOL

Rob N Lackey
@rob-n-lackey
06/10/17 06:15:57PM
420 posts

Where you playing next?


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Wish I'd hit mapquest before now.  Maybe I could have been there.  grumpycat

IRENE
@irene
06/10/17 05:41:00PM
168 posts

Fixed Bridge and Intonation


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YES, I love music of all ages, just about, but not HARD ROCK...I took a class at U of H playing all the sizes of recorders, but loved the sounds of viole de gamba and other early instruments. These have moveable frets. and wow, that's some tuner.  aloha, irene

abritabroad
@abritabroad
06/10/17 01:49:00PM
8 posts

Fixed Bridge and Intonation


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Thanks Ken!  Just the info I needed. What a great forum.....!

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
06/10/17 08:42:49AM
2,157 posts

Fixed Bridge and Intonation


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Generally we use a small triangular file to cut string notches -- much better than a saw; notches only need to be string diameter deep.  Try using a heat gun or hair dryer on the bridge/fretboard junction for a few minutes to soften glue, then use a small hammer and a punch (small length of wood or dowel) and a sharp tap to loosen the bridge.  If all else fails, you can (carefully) sand the bridge flat and make a floating bridge from a small split of chopstick or very hard wood with string notches.  Set it on top of the flattened bridge and angle the bass string end a few millimeters towards the tail as you begin tightening strings.

Strumelia
@strumelia
06/10/17 08:12:54AM
2,406 posts

Chromatic fret spacing on drone strings


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Here's one example of an Alpine region 'zither/dulcimer ancestor type' instrument from sometime around the turn of the century:

sl1600.jpg

abritabroad
@abritabroad
06/10/17 03:29:40AM
8 posts

Fixed Bridge and Intonation


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Awesome Irene...I would love to see an example of the bridges that you make. I am at a loss as to why any manufacturer would make a fixed bridge anyway. In writing that however, most acoustic guitars have a fixed bridge but they have a compensated bridge...  As an aside, I just purchased a Pono Octave Mandolin that has a fixed bridge but that is perfectly in tune. speaking on tune' ness that is a whole new thread. as a lover of early muisc and playing the violin and viola those instruments are tuned in perfect 5ths but do not have frets so you compensate with ones ear but with my Mandolins I use a "sweetended " tuning with is a kind of best of all worlds tempered tuning. I attached a picture of my tuner..MUCH more versatile than a tuner that tunes every thing to A440.  sorry to ramble but I noticed that you had an interest in other instruments as well as the dulcimer and early music as well! cheers!


Peterson tuner.jpg Peterson tuner.jpg - 14KB
IRENE
@irene
06/10/17 12:11:26AM
168 posts

Fixed Bridge and Intonation


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I have found that some dulcimers just have to have a FLOATING BRIDGE.   Either take off the strings or loose them up and then get that bridge out or sand it flat.  Then make another bridge and move it and you'll be able to get all the strings in tune by that method.  your strings might be high too....so check that problem.  I make all my dulcimers with a floating bridge.  When I repair dulcimers and loan 'em out to others, I get rid of glued in or fixed bridges and ahhhhhhhhhhh, IN TUNE.   aloha, irene

abritabroad
@abritabroad
06/09/17 11:48:22PM
8 posts

Fixed Bridge and Intonation


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Hello all, I am very new to the dulcimer but a lifelong musician. I just bought an Apple Valley dulcimer and the bass d string is very sharp at the octave. The dulcimer is virtually unplayable at this point. I have seen posts of people lengthening the string by cutting into the bridge so that the string sits on the back of the bridge, closer to the tailpiece. Among my questions are: Exactly what tool / size saw / file do you chaps use to cut the notches in the bridge? I was also considering changing the bridge but it appears to be glued in or it is a very tight fit?? Any advice here?...Ideally a floating bridge would be great so that I can make the compensations there. I play the violin, mandolin and earlier in life I played Pedal Steel as well so I could usually fix the intonation problem by moving the bridge a little. I searched for a compensated bridge but I think I will need to work with the bridge I have; however it does seem immovable at present. If I mess up I want to be able to replace it. so sorry for my long post....very happy to be a member of this community :)


updated by @abritabroad: 06/09/17 11:51:34PM
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
06/09/17 09:38:40PM
1,555 posts

Where you playing next?


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Tomorrow evening, Mark & I are to open for flatpicking guitar player Adam Schlenker at the Appalachian Listening Room in Logan OH.  It's been a few years since we've played 'out' anyplace.  Due to life circumstances, I have to meet Mark at the ALR, and return here to my folks' when the evening's done. 

Happy strumming, y'all! 

Rob N Lackey
@rob-n-lackey
06/09/17 08:16:38PM
420 posts

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Last gig was last Sat. at Pattyfest here in Fairmont.  Opened the stage performances with "Ballad of Spider John" and went up and down from there.  Now I'm looking for the next gig.   Got some possibilities in Morgantown, so if they pan out, I'll post the data.

 

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
06/09/17 05:11:47PM
2,157 posts

Tune You've Had The Most Fun Playing?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Lately I've been having fun playing Lay The Bend To The Bonnie Broom, a 19th century forerunner of The Riddle Song.

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
06/09/17 05:08:27PM
2,157 posts

Where you playing next?


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Memorial Day I played at the Altapass Orchard Memorial Day Picnic, on the Blueridge Parkway up in North Carolina.  Except for an Pen Mic or three, I'll next be at the Americana Community Music Association Listening Room on August 5th, opening for Nate Currin.

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